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Eve Tahmincioglu

Primary author Eve Tahmincioglu has been covering small business and entrepreneurship for more than a decade. She regularly writes about small business issues for the New York Times and BusinessWeek's SmallBiz magazine. She also writes the Your Career column for MSNBC.com. She is the author of "From the Sandbox to the Corner Office."



Don’t threaten to beat deadbeats

Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:42 AM by Eve Tahmincioglu
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When someone doesn’t pay you what you’re owed for the products you make or the service you provide don’t threaten them with bodily harm.

I love that piece of advice from the National Federation of Independent Business.

I know deadbeats can make you want to hit someone, but cooler heads must prevail or you could end up in jail. It’s harder to collect when you’re in the slammer.

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One small business owner Jay Goldberg, owner of Bergino, a company that makes handmade gift baseballs handled his deadbeat perfectly, even though he still hasn’t gotten his money.

A large catalog company based in Missouri since last year has owed him money.

“The irony of this whole thing is when I sell to a little retail shop I have them pay me upfront, but for larger accounts they always get terms,” he says, rethinking his strategy now.

They’re supposed to pay him within 30 days and if they don’t, Goldberg’s typically pretty lenient and gives them another 30 days. After that he starts to follow-up.

He started making calls to the deadbeat company and “right away I got a bad vibe. I made call after call, and then I spoke to a person in charge of accounting. She told me ‘you’ll get your money. Don’t worry.’”

At that point it was 80 days from the time he had delivered his products, and the person in accounting promised him he’d get a check in the next few weeks.

And surprise surprise, the check never came.

Finally, he got in touch with the president of the company who was very nice on the phone, and informed him that the company had been going through some problems. The president told Goldberg he could not pay the whole amount owed because the firm did not have the money.

Goldberg made a deal with the president that included accepting 50 percent of what was owned but he’d have to be paid within 10 days.

Well, weeks went by and, nothing.

The amount he’s owed is $2000. That might not sound like a lot on the surface, but for a small company that’s a big deal.

But the total isn’t enough to justify Goldberg flying to Missouri to sue the deadbeat firm in small claims court.

So, he contacted the Attorney General’s office in Missouri last month and filed a claim.

I called over to the state’s AG’s office and the press secretary there, John Fougere, told me the staff there makes an effort to contact the party that is the target of the complaint. And then they attempt to mediate the issue.

Last year, he says, the office returned $9.3 million to consumers and small businesses through informal mediation, without going to court.

Fougere says the AG’s office tries to get to each complaint as soon as possible, often within a few weeks.

“We encourage consumers or small businesses in the state or anywhere in the U.S. if they have an issue with a business or other entity based here to contact our office,” he stresses.

Not getting money you’re owed is a big problem for small firms. According to the NFIB 65.7 percent of companies report cash flow was a continuing problem, and of those nearly 30 percent say that “difficulty collecting money owned you” was the main reason.

When dealing with a leech advises Steve Strauss, author of “The Small Business Bible”,  “If the relationship is already fractured then a small claims case may make sense. It will certainly get their attention. Before that, after playing nice and asking repeatedly and pleasantly to be paid, I might get a lawyer to write a letter. It is business-like and professional, but it will also serve notice that the matter needs attention.”

And some more don’ts from NFIB:

* Calling or communicating with the debtor so frequently that it could be considered harassment.
* Using obscene or abusive language.
* Communicating with the debtor's employer or family members.

Goldberg hasn’t engaged in any of the no nos, but that doesn’t mean he’s not angry. “I’ll keep going. I’m not done with this guy,” he adds.


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Too bad states like Florida, NJ and Texas essentially allow their businesses to shaft an out of state company, go out of business on Friday and reopen in the same location Monday under a new name...there should be a debtors prison
I'm a small business owner.  It's pretty obvious that you don't threaten people with bodily harm.  If you do, you deserve to be put in jail for being a moron.  Threats will not help your business thrive.
Mr. Goldberg learned a lesson I try to teach my clients before they have to learn it the hard way. Small businesses should offer terms only if they can afford to go without being paid. Otherwise, they are gambling their companies' futures. If they may not survive a late payment, then they shouldn't make the deal.
My consulting firm advises clients in a cash flow crunch to use a payment and delivery schedule to insure on-time payment; especially if they are selling professional services.  All you need to do is request a percentage up front, then additional percentages as key parts of the services are delivered.  That way, you reduce your risk and keep the cash flow.  
Sometimes we small at home businesses have it made I guess, we don't ship until payment is received!
Of course our sales don't come as fast either, but if you don't ship the product until the payment is received, you don't get stiffed!
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I recently filed mine...I hope this is not the case...good onlinr source I used is www.civiltree.com hoping they can get the job done!
The customers of my business are across all vertical markets. Most of my customers pay right when work is completed. There are a few that I do bill but get payment within a week. I find it ironic that the few clients I do have that are deadbeats are attorneys.

I assume it's because they know that trying to collect is a pain in the neck and just laugh off the "lawyer" letters. What would they do to me if I refused to pay them their $250 per hour?
I've had only one problem with this from one of my clients, it was the end of the season and it was time for him to pay me and he never did because he thought that it wasn't his problem because he moved and he never told me.  He won't answer my calls and I am never going to see that much needed money.  Why are some people such pains?!
Ever wonder why you didn't know:

1. your new client was a slow-pay or no-pay?

2. your architect or engineer went to Contractor's Hell University?

3. your inspector whose sister had a grudge against you?

4. your window or cabinet supplier promised delivery in two weeks
    and didn't show for two months?

5. your sub had a gambling problem?

6. your general was a stiff to every sub he ever hired?

Maybe you knew about these people, maybe you were damaged by them, but you took
the lumps, kept your mouth shut, and moved on to the next job, but the unfairness still
ticks you off, and you think about it, and wonder "What if my kid came after me on that job,
what would I do, or want done?"

We in the building trade don't whine. We do the job and bitch to no one but our wives
or husbands or significant others, and the problem guys don't go away, they just
keep on doing business the way they've always done.....and nobody stops them.

Until now.

thecontractorsside.com is out to strengthen the business of building.
ALL OF IT.

We don't want to put them out of business, but we do want to arm our people
with information that will prevent problems before they can crop up.

If you are dealing with a liar, no matter how smooth, wouldn't it be better if
you knew when he was lying, where he was hedging? Of course.

thecontractorsside.com is a person to person website where anyone in the trades
can post a story about what to watch out for. And it's completely fair. The site will
automatically generate an e mail to the person posted, and that person can come back
and post a reply. (If you want to post anonymously you can, and you don't have to put in
the e mail of the other person if you don't want to.)

thecontractorsside.com was launched on April 2, 2007, and we've had 70,000 hits
so far, and we've had word back from all over the country from people in the trades
who feel great about getting their stories off their chest. We've also heard from Europe
and South America, so you see you are not alone.

Log onto thecontractorsside.com and see how you feel about the site. Better yet,
have your significant other take a look.

We hope you see the value and use the site.

Thanks,

Lee W. Dodson
Carpenter, Contractor, Hillside Builder
Owner: thecontractorsside.com


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