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JJ Ramberg

JJ Ramberg is the anchor of “Your Business,” MSNBC’s weekly show on small business. In addition to her extensive television reporting experience, Ramberg has a background as an entrepreneur and co-founded GoodSearch.com. She has an MBA from Stanford Business School.



Are you crazy to launch a venture now?

Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:03 PM by Eve Tahmincioglu
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I keep hearing lately how a recession is a good time for people to start businesses.

Call me cynical, but this sounds like something a crazy person would say, or someone just being counterintuitive to get attention. There’s a lot of that going around lately.

“It’s completely counterintuitive,” agrees Thomas Koulopoulos, author of "The Innovation Zone: How Great Companies Re-Innovate for Amazing Success.”

But he still thinks there’s some benefit in unleashing your entrepreneurial juices during a crummy economy.

“It’s not going to be a cakewalk. I’m not going to be Pollyannaish about it,” he maintains.

However, he adds, with so many people unemployed right now and the prospects of finding comparable work not that great, “why not take that break and innovate something, provide a benefit to folks, or start a new business?”

The question for me still is, is it a good idea, especially now?

He offers five reasons why it is a good idea:

    1. Many people will fall back and try to create their own venture while looking for new employment and waiting for the economy to get better. Of necessity, many of those folks end up building their own businesses at a time when costs are low and labor is relatively cheap. These new business often deliver the same services as their past employers at a far lower cost with lower overhead.
    2. Large companies are far less likely to interfere with competing employees and small entrepreneurial ventures even though they may pose a threat, since they have bigger problems to content with; therefore, innovation flourishes under the radar.
    3.  Powerful new alliances are formed among unemployed workers who join forces to recreate everything they felt was wrong with their old employers.
    4.  The companies that are started in a recession are very capital efficient and don’t need a lot of money to keep going.
    5.  The abundant supply of cheap office space to rent and talented staff are easier to find.

OK, ok, so there are some good reasons. But I needed examples of companies that actually were born during tough economic times.

To that, he offered this list:

1876 GE
1931 Allstate Insurance
1939 HP
1954 Burger King
1955 McDonalds
1957 Hyatt
1973 FedEx
1975 Microsoft
1976 Apple Computer
1980 CNN
1981 MTV
1992 Cliff Bar
2000 Methods (soaps)

Hmm. There’s still this particular recession, one of the worst on record. Maybe this economy is different than the rest. Indeed, credit markets are squeezed, and good luck getting a loan to fund your idea.

“When you’re in the middle of a recession people always want to say this is different,” he says. “They’re right, but most small business owners get their funding from home equity loans or refinancing their house.” And with low interest right now, he adds, that may be an option for many people.

Another factor making it easier for entrepreneurs to follow their dreams, he says, is social media and networking.

Good points, but what do you all think? Did you start a business during an economic rough patch? Or have you shelved your dreams until things turn around?


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The SBA funded the loan for our newly constructed self-serve car wash on the same day that Lehman Bros failed, so we call it our "recession baby". Despite that scary start, the venture has been a big success. Adoption and revenue have surpassed our projections  -- even those made *prior* to the oil/gas exploration pullback here in Western Colorado. The key: customers who have never washed their own cars in their entire lives consider our top-end $10 automatic wash to be a "value" choice when compared to the full-service wash in our smallish town. Plus, high quality help is easier to find and keep, and good help makes loyal customers. My favorite consequence of starting a new business at the start of a recession: for two years everything we could lay our hands on went into construction -- and not into the stock market!
Not only is the labor and supplies cheaper, but the legal services are cheaper, too...whether you're going to your lawyer that will now work for a flat fee or a huge legal company like legalzoom.com.  either way, you're going to be paying a lot less than you were paying attorneys even two years ago.
My spouse and I started our new business at the end of last summer. That was as close to the brink of the credit crunch as we dared. We got great low prices on purchases and excellent rates on the credit. We have been making money every since -- not great money and not the money we will make later. But enough to last until we do, which is more than we can say for our former employers.

Hard times kill off incompetent businesses, leaving more to those who remain. When one understands how to make all that work on paper, the entrepreneur has already been born. Bottom line is this was well worth the tightening of our belts it has required.
Started up my own company in July 2008. Started off as an electronic scrap recycling venture and then evolved into a refurbished computer/repair shop when the scrap market tanked. It's a small effort of mine to reduce the amount of electronic scrap being disposed in landfills (or sent to undeveloped countries). I also derive satisfaction of being able to provide low cost computers to those who previously could not afford one. With prices starting at $35 for a complete system, I am kept busy keeping inventory in stock. Inventory is largely obtained from discarded computer equipment (free drop-off or pick-up)that is tested to ensure it is suitable for reuse. Compromised components are sold to companies that process it only in the USA.
Innovation is indeed the key to starting a new venture in this environment.  Last year, I founded a specialty advertising service, Altavert Alternative Advertising, to meet an unmet need for small businesses in the Los Angeles market.  Even though it is a tough time for my company, as well as for my clients, those who see the value in this innovative service are eager to take advantage of compelling advertising during a time when their competition has all but stopped advertising.  In my case, the innovation was letting commuters advertise for my clients, placing their ads on the personal vehicles of people who live and work in their target markets.  An innovative service or product can attract the right clients to you, while those maintaining the status quo may not last to see the end of this downturn.  For more information, please visit www.altavert.com.  
I started my first business in 1977 when the economy was much like it is today. People thought I was crazy as most of my machinery was bought at auctions of bankrupt companies. I sold my business in 1998 after making a very good living for all those years, this is the best time to start a new venture as there should be a time coming soon when the only way the economy will go is up.
My wife started her babies and kids clothing business last December and one of our biggest concerns was the economic downturn. So far it has being a very positive experience. We had the capital saved, so there is no need for higher cost funding from banks. All the costs and expenses are lower than planned and, at least here in Brazil, the economic situation is not that bad. Competitors that were not prepared for a crisis, had no cash reserves or backup plans are going out of business making things even easier. I believe that when the economy recovers she will be in a much better position compared to businesses opened during the economic upturn that (naturally) make business owners more complacent and careless.
I was laid off last fall and used my severance money to fund my new business. In the meantime, I've been working a temp job to pay expenses while building up the business. It's a perfect time, because I never would have had the capital to invest and come out debt-free while building up a customer base.
We have been trying to get a loan for our brewery, beer hall, and restaurant for two years now.  Unfortunately our timing was horrible with this coinciding with the housing slump and the beginning of the tightening of credit.  We purchased a beautiful historic brick building built in 1892.  Its original owner was kissed when she was a young girl by Abraham Lincoln just after he stepped down from delivering the Gettysburg Address.  Our business plan is solid and we have an incredible team put together.  We have raised over $600,000 in private capital and have $750,000 in state loans arranged.  Yet with many dozens of lenders contacted, we still have been unsuccessful in acquiring the bank funding we need to complete the project.  The normal bank response has been: "with the tightening of our bank's credit and your business being a start-up, we will have to pass."  Still, we have not given up hope!
When I started my company in 1993, I was lucky enough not to have needed a loan to get it up and running. We started very small, and ramped up year after year. I don't know the percent of companies that start-up with outside capital, but the credit markets have most certainly hurt start-ups. Because we offer marketing services (marketing materials, websites, and such) to businesses, it has been interesting to see the ebb and flow of business start-ups over the years. What has surprised me is the remarkable fall-off in activity we have seen over the last year. Where have the start-ups gone?

So, is it a great time to start a new business? It certainly seems like it if you can do so without a bank loan. Between the credit markets and the rampant fear and loathing about the economy, it looks like you will have fewer smart and aggressive new competitors coming to market. If you can, go for it!
We started our business in 1991, during a recession. Grew 400% second years, 100% third year and 100% each year after that. Bankrupted in 2000, ( due to a lawsuit by an ex-partner, not finances) We closed it on a Friday, turned right around and walked back in and reopened it the next Monday, been doing 1.2 million a year since, and that was also during a recession. The business? a machine chop that deals with industrial specialty work.
Closed on an SBA loan last Sept 2008.  The start-up went well but we ran into a wall as we started sales.  We are a wholesale food manufacturer.  We managed to get into 20 grocery stores in 3 months, but its still not enough to break even. Apparently retail grocery stores are being hesitant to take on new products.  And with the banks not giving up any lines of credit, we are out of working capital. We've had to give notice to our employees and start down-sizing.  Hopefully we can keep it going with some creative business strategies and weather the storm.
I started my marketing business in 1996 - the national economy was good but our local economy was weak. However, my house was almost paid off, son just graduated from college - so my financial responsibilities were quite a bit less than, say, five years before. While I would counsel somebody just starting a busines to keep it "lean and mean" I would also say that if they survive the next two years, they'll be in good shape since soooo many businesses - both new and existing - will fall by the wayside for any number of reasons - and, often, money isn't the major reason.
My husband and I were laid off from our jobs in the last downturn -- when telecom and the stock market went bust in year 2000.  We got into a food manufacturing company for nothing down, with the agreement to settle for X dollars after the SBA's are paid off.  So far, so good.  Got more funding from a national organization and won a grant--automated the plant and launched 3 new products in 2008/2009. Its tough going against the "big guys," but we are holding our own.  We are looking to move into a larger facility with a landlord who is willing to do tenant improvement buildouts for a long-term lease and option to purchase in 3 years.  Again, no one said it would be easy---it is a struggle, but you see the results of hard work over the years.   We have one more product coming out next month, and then we are pretty much done with product development. This year its all about marketing and sales. This is our retirement plan---couldn't depend on corporate America to do it for us. Susan, Salt Lake City, UT.
I have more of a question than a comment.  However, I think that there a many others that have this same question.  Where do I find grants and/or loans to help a fledgling new small business grow during this tough economic time?  It hardly seems prudent to go to my local banker - not when the doors of some the BANK'S competitors have had to close THEIR doors.  Any help out there?
i started 3—count 'em 3—successful small businesses during the last big recession in the early nineties. and yes, i'm starting another one this year. hard times make it easier to separate the tigers from the sucktits.

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Sandy, many grants can be found at www.Grants.gov/ I think what surprised me most, was the sheer number of grants. The DOD is a huge funder too.

good luck~~
Los Angeles used to be the Garment Capital of the US.

After the 911 tragedy, I lost my job for 21 years managing a small business with 150 employees in the Garment Industry due to outsourcing jobs overseas. After jobless for one year, I was hired by a Taiwanese owned company . However, the company was sold in April of 2008> Due to some accounting process, the company made me stay until the end of Dec. 31, 2008. I am now one of the millions collecting unemployment. I wanted to start my own business with the experience I got. However, I need help on how to get an SBA Loan since I do not own the company. I wanted to be part of the solution not to be a part of the problem. If manufacturing will be instilled here in  the US. With modern equipments (machinery), then we can compete with prices, faster delivery, good quality, better production and provide jobs to the unemployed.. No matter how cheap prices are from overseas if there are no jobs created , who would even want to buy these cheap products? I need help. Please advise.  
Sandy -
Pay cash for everything you can...and switch to a local Credit Union!
I was medically separated from my maintenance job this month. Last month I decided to open my own store at that famous on-line seller that starts with the letter 'e'. I'm using my vacation/sick time money to get going. Have sold a few items in just over 2 weeks. I finally get to use my EMBA in my own venture. My goal is to be a power seller by the fall, and replace my former income in 2 years.
For Sandy from Greely, check out the Small Business Administration web site and see if they can assist or refer you out-good luck!
Absolutely right, new ventures should start. Lots of people will now start and succeed. Working with experienced support will help those businesses, an experienced business coach is a great way to do this - and very cost effective.
I recently incorporated my own small business and was amazed at the amount of tax savings I could get. It feels great to be my own boss
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